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  • Cote Fired

    So it was announced that Riley Cote was fired, probably a long time coming. I'm sure if it was all hockey related he seemed to like to talk about everything but hockey to reporters and went on a hemp rant during a development camp interview.
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  • #2
    Here's his interview with BSH. Some very interesting info especially on Weal:

    BSH Radio: Obviously Flyers fans know the big names, the defensive prospects. But were there any kids that you coached that maybe were a bit more under-the-radar, that you really believe might make an impact at the NHL level in the near future?

    Well, I would certainly say Taylor Leier. I know heís had his little stints [in the NHL] and people know who he is, but as far as a quality human being, a quality worker, ďgets it,Ē a pro ó heíll find his way for sure, whether itís the Flyers or someone else. Surely he will.


    Heís not so much of a young guy anymore, but a guy named Cole Bardreau. Heís extremely explosive, dangerous, a penalty killer, hard-nosed guy. Probably nothing more than a fourth line center role, penalty killer, but heís the type of guy that you root for in a developmental league and youíd expect to develop for that role instead of paying a premium for a fourth line centerman, which I think you can develop those players. Especially a guy who can skate well and kill penalties.

    Defense, obviously you said it, pretty obvious. But I think the Phantoms have done a great job at least in bringing a lot more veteran presence type guys that these young guys learn from. But for sure, for sure Taylor Leier. Heís something, and hopefully Cole finds a way as well.


    BSH Radio: Did you see Jordan Wealís game dramatically improve from the start of the season to where it was right before the call-up?

    You know, I wouldnít say dramatically, no. Weals is an unbelievable hockey player. This guy competes, heís got unbelievable skill, heís shifty, he cares, and heís got the right attitude. I think he was the MVP of the league I think two years before that. This guy outgrew the American Hockey League two years ago. Unfortunately, he was screwed with politics last year with the Flyers, and I donít remember how many games he ended up playing.

    A guy like that, you canít not play a guy like that. If heís on your roster, you play the damn guy, because he is that good. Heís almost like Ghost when he came up with the Flyers. He actually has the ability to change games. So dynamic, full of energy, competes like a bastard. I would even say he competes at a much higher level than Ghost does, so heís a guy that needs to play on the top two lines, you need to play this guy.

    But right from the start of last year, he was on a mission. He just racked up the points. He still finished in the top-15 in scoring [in the AHL], he only played three-quarters of the year. I was happy to see him go, hurt losing him obviously, but I think heís one of those guys if you give him an opportunity, you give him ice time and play him with good players, I think heís going to surprise a lot of people how good he can actually be.


    Heís that crafty, but he works so hard. I donít know if Iíve coached a guy that does more little footwork, and picking up pucks in his skates, and picking up bad pucks, and just little things that I never have really seen guys work on that much. He cares. It was a great signing by the Flyers.


    BSH Radio: What did you see out of Scott Laughton last year, and is this [upcoming season] his year?

    I love Laughts to death. I think he just suffers from an identity crisis. I think heís been an offensive guy his whole junior career, heís been the ďlean-onĒ guy, I think he had a hard time adjusting to a lesser role, [lines] three or four, you know what I mean? I think what heís learned coming back down is that... he didnít play on the power play, he didnít play in offensive situations like that, so I think heís able to absorb more of what he really, truly is.

    Itís not a knock on his ability. But once you get to the NHL, thereís so many unbelievable talents, so you have to take a lesser role sometimes. I think for him, heís a third line center probably max on a good team. But I think he has to buy into that role, because thereís a lot of responsibility that comes with that role. I think he needs to be just a little bit more gritty, maybe cut his losses a little bit more. I think he hangs onto the puck too much and gets into trouble, turns pucks over, and so he doesnít have to carry the puck as much.

    I think he works hard enough, gets on the puck hard enough, I think he just... we talked about it all the time: ďSimplify his game.Ē Be a hard worker, be a reliable centerman, win faceoffs, kill penalties. Thereís nothing wrong with that. Thereís some guys ó and I think he had an identity crisis ó itís hard to swallow when youíre a 90-point guy, almost 100-point guy in juniors. You think youíre just gonna hop right into the NHL and be an 80-point guy in the NHL, and itís just not realistic. Tagging him [like that] before he made the Flyers... well, he made the Flyers, came back to the Phantoms, made the Flyers again, came back to the Phantoms again, I think it really just crushed his confidence. I think he just needs to come back in training camp and earn a job and just mean business. I think he has to have that attitude.

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    • #3
      This might be an unpopular opinion and I didnt see it until the offseason and hearing some interviews with some of the kids like Fazleev and NAK. Gordon gets a lot of shit for his handling of the kids and Hextall gets shit for his signing 6 billion AHL vets last year to fill out the roster when it was already pretty well set with prospects. But both Fazleev and NAK said that it forced them to roles that they were uncomfortable or hadn't played before -- likely roles they will be playing if they make it to the NHL -- they were not just handed top 6 and PP minutes and they were benched when they failed to understand their role and they were rewarded when they proved they had learned their role. I'm not saying some blame doesn't lie with Gordon -- honestly like Hak -- he seemed to rely on vets when better talent was available see Lamarche vs Freidman/Wilcox and Swavely vs anyone with a pulse. But I hope this year that with Cote gone they can get a better assistant down there to help with the forwards and power play and that Gordon will trust the kids a bit more -- if they earned it.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by iceman42 View Post
        This might be an unpopular opinion and I didnt see it until the offseason and hearing some interviews with some of the kids like Fazleev and NAK. Gordon gets a lot of shit for his handling of the kids and Hextall gets shit for his signing 6 billion AHL vets last year to fill out the roster when it was already pretty well set with prospects. But both Fazleev and NAK said that it forced them to roles that they were uncomfortable or hadn't played before -- likely roles they will be playing if they make it to the NHL -- they were not just handed top 6 and PP minutes and they were benched when they failed to understand their role and they were rewarded when they proved they had learned their role. I'm not saying some blame doesn't lie with Gordon -- honestly like Hak -- he seemed to rely on vets when better talent was available see Lamarche vs Freidman/Wilcox and Swavely vs anyone with a pulse. But I hope this year that with Cote gone they can get a better assistant down there to help with the forwards and power play and that Gordon will trust the kids a bit more -- if they earned it.
        I find it interesting that this team which is attempting to proceed with a full youth movement has two coaches (Gordon & Hak) who both don't seem to like kids...or are rigid guys to say the least.

        Everyone thought Hak was brought in because of his college background and ability to deal with younger players, yet he's pretty much shown the opposite.

        I am very curious to see how our coaching situation shakes out in the next 12 months. We have plenty of young skilled/creative kids in the A and with the Big club, yet both guys are terminator like...

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        • #5
          Perhaps the fanbase overvalues the kids...and what they can do today..versus their ceiling and expectations as future stars.

          Riley Cote is a good dude, but as one of the key pieces in chasing Maroon out of town, doesn't get to throw out a Molotov cocktail like "politics" to gin up clicks and attention when it comes to Weal..

          Here's an idea, the kids will be good...that doesn't mean they are good...

          Wondering how BSH handles it when Weal fails to live up to lofty expectations...should be amusing...

          nothing against Weal..but he's a middle-six forward at best...the breathlessness about him is troubling..especially when he racked up his points at times other players are chided for doing the same (looking at you Simmonds, Schenn, Cooter)...

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