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    http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphi...-hextalls-eyes

    The New Jersey Devils took a significant step this past week in their quest to be a serious contender in the Eastern Conference playoff picture by acquiring 26-year-old defenseman Sami Vatanen from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Adam Henrique, Joseph Blandisi and a third-round pick.

    Seemingly not content with his team’s red-hot start, Devils general manager Ray Shero jumped at the chance to improve his team, which had nothing to do with navigating the salary cap, bolstering his position in future drafts or building a future contender.

    It was a pure hockey move to get better right now. Vatanen is a puck-moving, top-four defenseman who gives New Jersey depth and can play in whatever situation the Devils need. The play of Jersey's young forwards made Henrique, a very good two-way center, expendable. For a team that finished dead last in the Eastern Conference a season ago with just 70 points, the Devils have seemingly made a 180-degree turn quicker than if Shero was operating a jet ski.

    Compared to their neutral-zone trapping Stanley Cup title days, this brand of Devils hockey is actually enjoyable to watch. While they could eventually come back to the Metropolitan Division pack, the Devils have something brewing and Shero is not willing to wait around, sit on his hands and just watch it happen.

    Since taking over in the summer of 2015, the Devils' GM has made bold moves that have included the additions of Taylor Hall, Kyle Palmeiri, Brian Boyle, Marcus Johansson and now Vatanen. And, of course, he had the first overall pick, Nico Hischier, fall into his lap. While some hockey executives in a similar rebuild may see a light at the end of the tunnel, Shero’s road map has just about avoided the tunnel altogether.

    Just down the turnpike, Ron Hextall’s turnaround has been a considerably slower process in spite of a one-year head start over Shero. In the three-plus years since taking over as the Flyers' general manager on May 7, 2014, Hextall has executed 15 trades, and almost every transaction has involved future considerations through draft picks and few, if any, difference-makers.

    The Hextall era started with the lopsided deal in June of 2014 involving Scott Hartnell to Columbus for R.J. Umberger and a 2015 fourth-round pick. All Hartnell did was score 64 goals along with 146 points with the Blue Jackets, while Umberger contributed just 11 goals and 26 points all while playing through injuries he had sustained prior to the trade. Sure, Hextall was able to shave a few years off a contract, but Umberger was simply damaged goods.

    More recently, there was the 2017 draft day swap of Brayden Schenn to St. Louis for a pair of first-round picks and a possible third, to go along with forward Jori Lehtera. While Schenn has emerged as a No. 1 center for the Blues, Lehtera is now a potential buyout candidate at the end of the season, much like Umberger was after his two years back in Philadelphia.

    What the Flyers have received in Hextall’s trades have been secondary pieces, hardly key contributors: Jordan Weal (from L.A. as part of the Vinny Lecavalier-Luke Schenn trade), Valtteri Filppula (from Tampa Bay in the Mark Streit deal), and Radko Gudas (from Tampa Bay as part of a Braydon Coburn swap). Once again, role players, but not the necessary moves capable of taking the franchise to the next level.

    Furthermore, with Hextall's combination of trades and free-agent signings, there’s a widespread belief that the team isn’t surrounding cornerstones Claude Giroux and Jakub Voracek with a supporting cast good enough to be a perennial playoff power and there's a feeling that their prime years are being wasted. And the misery of the current 10-game losing streak doesn't help a single thing.

    The last time both star players won a playoff series came in 2012 when Giroux was 24 and Voracek was just 22. Since then, there have been three non-playoff seasons and a pair of first-round exits as Giroux and Voracek inch closer to 30. Giroux will turn 30 in January.


    Regardless of their record, the Flyers have been able to stare down at the Devils within their division, as New Jersey has finished below Philadelphia in the standings every season since 2009-10, even though the Devils eliminated the Flyers from the playoffs in 2012 and went on to the Stanley Cup Final that year. But the order now appears to be changing.

    Following the Flyers' ninth straight loss this past Tuesday vs. the Sharks, Hextall reiterated to the media that the team he’s assembled is good enough to make the playoffs, while also adding, “I try to make this team better every day if there’s something that can be done.”

    Which begs the question, exactly which team is Hextall referring to? The one preparing for the Calgary Flames on Monday night or the Philadelphia Flyers of 2020?

    There’s proof you can address the present and the future at the same time.

    Those details are in the Devils and Shero.
    Pieces are in place for the future. We still need a top pairing defenseman and a scoring winger. Doesn't look like we are going to get anything from Free Agency or a trade due to our cap limitations. Development years ahead.

  • #2
    I agree with the bolded part. That's my biggest fear, that we're wasting primarily Giroux's best years.

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    • #3
      Just like we wasted Lindros' best years
      Pieces are in place for the future. We still need a top pairing defenseman and a scoring winger. Doesn't look like we are going to get anything from Free Agency or a trade due to our cap limitations. Development years ahead.

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      • #4
        trade 2 of voracek, giroux, and simmonds. been saying it for a while now.

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        • #5
          https://www.thefourthperiod.com/dec-...e-wearing-thin

          MONTREAL, QC -- Patience; it’s said to be a virtue. It is a word that Flyers’ General Manager Ron Hextall has been preaching since he took over in May of 2014.
          From the beginning of his tenure, Hextall has stayed true to this, as he has built slow and steady through the NHL Draft and developing talent within the organization. In today’s NHL, that seems to be the best method to build a Cup-contending team for an extended amount of time.
          But three and a half years later and patience is wearing thin amongst the Philadelphia faithful.
          On heels of the team’s 10th straight loss (0-5-5 during that stretch) after being shutdown by Boston on Saturday, panic mode is in full force right now in the City of Brotherly Love. The lack of effort is evident, and the fans are calling for the head of Head Coach Dave Hakstol. To put it bluntly, the fans have had enough of the mediocrity.
          To be fair, it was obvious that this season would one filled with ups and downs. Despite the fanbase being ecstatic with the arrival of youth, it would’ve been unrealistic to expect all rookies to hit their stride right out of the gate. Having five defensemen under the age of 25 on your roster is not exactly an ideal situation. The growing pains were to be expected.
          But even though the Flyers were not expected to be Cup contenders by any stretch of the imagination, there was no reason to think that they would be bottom dwellers, either.
          After surprisingly making the playoffs in Hakstol’s first year behind the bench in 2015-16, the team has yet to take the next step in the right direction and build off the impromptu playoff berth. In fact, they are heading in the opposite direction, and seem to be getting worse with each passing day. It has been all downhill since the team’s 10-game winning streak last season.
          So who’s to blame?
          Well, if you ask the fans, they’ll tell you it’s Hakstol, which was evident as the “Fire Hakstol” chants echoed through the Wells Fargo Center during the team’s game vs. San Jose last week. Is it fair to point the blame at the coach? Absolutely. Hakstol has made questionable roster decisions time and time again, like favoring veterans over youngsters constantly. This was evident Saturday afternoon, as he benched Travis Konecny for all but 36 seconds of the third period.
          Aside from that, his utilization of the goaltenders since Day One has been questionable, to say the least. When Hakstol arrived, Steve Mason was the undisputed No.1 goaltender, and had been for two previous years. But Hakstol insisted on using a “platoon” format, which ultimately ended up driving Mason out of town. But given how Mason has played since leaving Philly, maybe that wasn’t such a bad thing.
          But the team’s lack of energy and effort on a game-in and game-out basis has been alarming during the recent losing streak and has to fall on his shoulders. Hakstol himself is constantly looking lifeless and emotionless behind the bench, which rubs off on your team. The Flyers are playing like a group that has given up on its coach.
          Last week on the “Insider Trading” segment on TSN, Bob McKenzie reported that Hextall would not fire Hakstol and was “all in” with his coach, which may come as a disappointment to most fans of the Orange and Black. But how long can all this go on for?
          Speaking of Hextall, it would be foolish not to hold him accountable for some the blame, as well.
          Although patience has been his philosophy since the start, the team’s lack of advancement over the last calendar year has to be thought of as unacceptable. Yes, it is true, the team’s future looks extremely bright with a plethora of talented young players on the roster, and even more coming up the pipeline, but after awhile losing gets to be tiring.
          The team’s offense is simply not deep enough, and the lack of a true starting goaltender is evident. The future is bright, yes, but sitting in the basement of the Metropolitan Division in Year Four of a rebuild is not exactly an ideal situation for Hextall.
          Hextall’s patience and willingness to build from within is admirable and has done the organization really well for the most part, but it’s time to realize the coach is not adequate and the team is need of immediate help. The future is bright, but it is time to give the fans something to cheer for in the here and now.
          The Flyers’ downward spiral does not look to have an imminent end in sight, and eventually, something will have to give.

          Pieces are in place for the future. We still need a top pairing defenseman and a scoring winger. Doesn't look like we are going to get anything from Free Agency or a trade due to our cap limitations. Development years ahead.

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          • #6
            Claude Giroux is nothing like Lindros.

            A large part of "wasting Giroux's best years" sits squarely on Giroux..

            Also weird that a fanbase that embraced go nowhere acquisitions like Bryzgalov and Mason now want a do over on their stances...

            Everyone keeps talking about how bad this team has been in their last 70+ games but also acting like there was some reason they were gonna be relevant this year..

            Honest question...what changed between mid April 2017 and November 2017...to make people think it was gonna be good this year???

            No one called Nolan Patrick a game changing talent, in fact he came with a lot of question marks.

            They traded Schenn for picks. Added two rookies to the blueline...and the offense outside of the usual suspects...was to come from unproven players like Konecny and Weal..

            Where..I mean someone help out...where did these inflated expectations come from??!?

            As a guy who took shit from this board for questioning Weal and wondering if keeping Konecny last year were the right moves...it's crazy watching people pull 180s..

            This team is better than it's current record and with more than half the season left...drawing comparisons to other clubs is futile.

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            • #7
              Claude Giroux is nothing like Lindros, the organization is doing exactly the same thing though. Not exactly surrounding him with a team capable of winning. If so, why keep him, Jake and Simmonds? Just wasting these guys while we "build from the draft" and by the time our youth is ready (if they ever get there) these guys will be passengers chipping in here and there while eating a massive chunk of the cap. This management team has the team itself half pregnant. It's either all in for the rebuild or try and get better for the short term and compete. This season doesn't make any sense with what we are doing. Hakstol is not an NHL Coach either and that was apparent in his coach's challenges lol. What a tool.
              Pieces are in place for the future. We still need a top pairing defenseman and a scoring winger. Doesn't look like we are going to get anything from Free Agency or a trade due to our cap limitations. Development years ahead.

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              • #8
                Yes, I know Giroux isn't as good as maybe the org has made him out to be, but with top-end talent on his wing he could have been better. How long have we been saying he needs a sniper on his line to get the most out of him?

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                • #9
                  Couple things...

                  1. The New Jersey Devils haven't made the playoffs since once since 2010-11. Any comparison to where they are versus Philadelphia is absolute garbage.

                  2. The Flyers have had Giuroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn as a core for 6 years leading up to Schenn's trade this summer. That core went nowhere...and wasn't Hextall's doing.

                  3. Hextall has been the GM since May of 2014.

                  In 2014 the Flyers drafted: Sanheim, Aube-Kubel and Lindblom
                  In 2015 the Flyers drafted: Provorov, Konecny...in the top 25
                  In 2016 the Flyers drafted: Rubstov, Hart, Bunnaman
                  In 2017 the Flyers drafted: Patrick, Frost and Ratcliffe in the top 35.

                  ...the roster for the last regular season Flyers Game in April 2014?

                  Akeson
                  Coburn
                  Couturier
                  Gill
                  Giroux
                  Gustaffson
                  Hall
                  Hartnell
                  Lecavellier
                  McGinn
                  Read
                  Rosehill
                  B. Schenn
                  L. Schenn
                  Simmonds
                  Streit
                  Timonene
                  Voracek

                  Cal Heeter was the goalie, this was the Mason/Emery year...when they lose in 7 to the Rangers in the First Round.
                  What happens if they go on to round 2?

                  Are the Flyers better off believing that is an acceptable roster....they did go 42-30-10, 42-27-10 after replacing Laviolette with Berube.

                  Yup, Craig Berube coached that roster to 42 wins...

                  ..not gonna get upset about wins and losses....when I can look at the talent hextall's putting together...

                  An absolute shitburger like that roster won 40 gmaes and went to the playoffs...

                  maybe Flyers fans need to readjust their methods of measuring the team and progress




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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by evee1234 View Post
                    Claude Giroux is nothing like Lindros, the organization is doing exactly the same thing though. Not exactly surrounding him with a team capable of winning. If so, why keep him, Jake and Simmonds? Just wasting these guys while we "build from the draft" and by the time our youth is ready (if they ever get there) these guys will be passengers chipping in here and there while eating a massive chunk of the cap. This management team has the team itself half pregnant. It's either all in for the rebuild or try and get better for the short term and compete. This season doesn't make any sense with what we are doing. Hakstol is not an NHL Coach either and that was apparent in his coach's challenges lol. What a tool.
                    man evee you are pissed recently

                    I think the idea is that we need to get playoff experience for the kids, and also allow them to take on more responsibility at a rate they are comfortable with. thats an important part of developing them and maximizing them as assets. for that you sacrifice possible returns on trading older players. "building a winning culture" etc etc. full rebuilds can easily sour... like edmonton until recently, sabres, coyotes, etc. However i dont entirely subscribe to that view.

                    Hakstol had one bad challenge, which was probably the review coach's fault. Imo hakstol hasnt done too much visibly wrong. All this whinging about who is in or out of the lineup is way off base. The worst I could say is maybe he takes too long to switch things up when its going wrong. Example, splitting up the top line, he waited until they had a few bad games in a row to split them. Possibly could of done that sooner, even if it meant risking that no lines would score.

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