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    Seeing the Tom Wilson contract (6yr - $31M - $5.166M - modified NTC), i pretty much am expecting Simmonds to sign a $7M/yr longterm contract when he finally does sign. If its anywhere near the $7M level, do we have any chance of seeing him sign with the Flyers? I know we have a bunch of cap space, but the kids will be getting their share of the pie soon...so not sure how this will make sense.

    Personally, i don't see how we can have another $7M+ forward.

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    Originally posted by lynchmob450 View Post
    Seeing the Tom Wilson contract (6yr - $31M - $5.166M - modified NTC), i pretty much am expecting Simmonds to sign a $7M/yr longterm contract when he finally does sign. If its anywhere near the $7M level, do we have any chance of seeing him sign with the Flyers? I know we have a bunch of cap space, but the kids will be getting their share of the pie soon...so not sure how this will make sense.

    Personally, i don't see how we can have another $7M+ forward.
    IF he can get back to playing like he did before the injuries, I hope they sign him then. Wait to see if he still has it.

    Now if the Flyers sign him... When will the next lockout /buyout period take place? Or you could always expose him in the next expansion draft in a couple of years if he is not the player they want to keep at that time. Or trade him out west, in a couple of years, to keep him away from TO or other rivials in the east.

    Because of those options down the road, I am not worrying about what contract Simmonds ends up with that much (within reason). I just don't want to see him in a leaf uniform anytime soon (almost positive he would sign there as a FA and he is from the area. Probably sign a home town discount contract to play there). If I were Hextall, I would want to have some control over where he may or may not end up. JMO.
    Last edited by Tim Kerr #12; 07-30-2018, 11:28 AM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tim Kerr #12 View Post

      IF he can get back to playing like he did before the injuries, I hope they sign him then. Wait to see if he still has it.

      Now if the Flyers sign him... When will the next lockout /buyout period take place? Or you could always expose him in the next expansion draft in a couple of years if he is not the player they want to keep at that time. Or trade him out west, in a couple of years, to keep him away from TO or other rivials in the east.

      Because of those options down the road, I am not worrying about what contract Simmonds ends up with that much (within reason). I just don't want to see him in a leaf uniform anytime soon (almost positive he would sign there as a FA and he is from the area. Probably sign a home town discount contract to play there). If I were Hextall, I would want to have some control over where he may or may not end up. JMO.
      With the Tavares signing and Nylander/Marner/Matthews coming up, I doubt the Leafs have room for Simmonds at a high cap hit. I also doubt Simmonds does a hometown discount as he has stated before that he grew up a Wings fan and not a Leafs fan.

      I love Simmonds but I can't see signing a long-term big-money deal with his style of play. It would be a massive gamble. Even though we have cap space now, we're going to need room for Provorov, Konecny and Patrick in the very near future.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Pit View Post

        With the Tavares signing and Nylander/Marner/Matthews coming up, I doubt the Leafs have room for Simmonds at a high cap hit. I also doubt Simmonds does a hometown discount as he has stated before that he grew up a Wings fan and not a Leafs fan.

        I love Simmonds but I can't see signing a long-term big-money deal with his style of play. It would be a massive gamble. Even though we have cap space now, we're going to need room for Provorov, Konecny and Patrick in the very near future.
        Never heard that, thanks. I could handle him on the Wings for some reason, even though they are in the east. Shows how much I despise the Leaflets.
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        • #5
          after what happened in Detroit...would he go there?

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          • #6
            I think we can fit in a 7M forward, but there's no way it could be any more than 3-4 years. I think that's going to be our hang up with Simmonds. Money won't be the issue; term will. He's going to be looking for a deal (in terms of length) the way Backes and Lucic cashed in on 2 years ago.

            again, money will not be the problem. In the next 2 years, we have RFA's most likely on bridge deals in Provorov, laughton, nolan and konecny. It seems like a lot, but don't forget we're going to be shedding Lehtera's 4.7 mill, along with decisions on re-upping Raffl and Weal that'll most likely be less than their current contracts (unless Weal really breaks out this year).

            It's the 4-5 years out window that's more up in the air than the 2-3 year window. If Wayne wants more than 4 years, I'm afraid it won't be in the orange and black
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            • #7
              Oh yeah, my high dollar amount for him also assumes he wants term.

              On a tangent, we shouldn't be bridging Provorov or Patrick - probably not Konecny either. We will end up paying for it in the long run if we do.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pit View Post
                Oh yeah, my high dollar amount for him also assumes he wants term.

                On a tangent, we shouldn't be bridging Provorov or Patrick - probably not Konecny either. We will end up paying for it in the long run if we do.
                I agree with you on the bridge deals. I was just suggesting that route as an option if wanting a high dollar on Simmonds, plus some flexibility.

                Konecny could be interesting depending on this season. If he improves further then it's a no brainer; but if he stagnates or regresses, I would have to believe he gets a modest raise on a 2+ year contract so as to maintain his RFA status while we see if he's definitely the real deal (IMHO, he is; but for the sake of argument)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by flyerdog View Post
                  after what happened in Detroit...would he go there?
                  $$$$ and term I suppose...

                  Would it shock anyone though if he took another team friendly deal with the Flyers, because he like's it in Philly? Doubt it, but that would be awesome.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tim Kerr #12 View Post

                    $$$$ and term I suppose...

                    Would it shock anyone though if he took another team friendly deal with the Flyers, because he like's it in Philly? Doubt it, but that would be awesome.
                    Taking a 3yr @ $7M contract would make sense if he feels he there is something special being built with the Flyers and that this window would allow him a chance to play for a real contender for the Cup. A 3yr deal would possible allow him to sign another contract at age 33/34 that would be relative to a new (and improved) salary cap situation (post lockout part deux).

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