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  • lynchmob450
    started a topic WJHC 2018

    WJHC 2018

    The Flyers are well represented at this year's World Junior Hockey Championship. One Canadian, I believe four Americans and two Swedes. This should be a very entertaining tourney for hockey fans...especially those interested in Flyers prospects.

    10 mins into Canada's 1st game, Frost has a beautiful goal and a brilliant assist.

    The future is bright!

    Here is an article with details of the Flyers prospects :

    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelph...ionship-primer
    Last edited by lynchmob450; 12-26-2018, 08:35 PM.

  • evee1234
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    Originally posted by Cup4Recchi8 View Post
    You are absolutely right that the draft is no guarantee of success. See the Edmonton Oilers. I feel that being a middle of the pack team for so many years and drafting mid to late round year after year has hurt this team with a lack of skill or game breaking talent. Its not often the Flyers have had a chance to draft in the top 2 or 3 and get a highly skilled player and this is one of those years. The only times I can think of in their history is the JVR draft ,the Patrick draft (both years of course were not great drafts,typical Flyers luck) and the Bridgman draft decades ago (again not a franchise altering draft) Just once I would like to see the Flyers draft high and get a game breaking talent,this is why they have to try to get it this year. Hughes,Kakko and the Russian kid and Couzins and Dach are all good prospects. This is a good draft and the Flyers should at least try to get Hughes and acquire another 1st round pick or two if possible.
    Edmonton's problem is no scouting staff. Their drafting is atrocious and that is mainly due to Kevin Lowe and the years they had that idiot at the helm. Even with Chiarelli their drafting has been terrible. Finding Bouchard was a gimme pick because he fell to them. After that, their 2nd to final rounds of every draft have been mostly garbage. I think Hextall with all those picks would have put together a vastly different prospect pool.

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  • clumsysnake
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    you can't just tank and win, but its hard to be a great team without hitting on atleast 2 top-10 draft talents.

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  • Cup4Recchi8
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    You are absolutely right that the draft is no guarantee of success. See the Edmonton Oilers. I feel that being a middle of the pack team for so many years and drafting mid to late round year after year has hurt this team with a lack of skill or game breaking talent. Its not often the Flyers have had a chance to draft in the top 2 or 3 and get a highly skilled player and this is one of those years. The only times I can think of in their history is the JVR draft ,the Patrick draft (both years of course were not great drafts,typical Flyers luck) and the Bridgman draft decades ago (again not a franchise altering draft) Just once I would like to see the Flyers draft high and get a game breaking talent,this is why they have to try to get it this year. Hughes,Kakko and the Russian kid and Couzins and Dach are all good prospects. This is a good draft and the Flyers should at least try to get Hughes and acquire another 1st round pick or two if possible.

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  • AIK1891
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    Originally posted by Cup4Recchi8 View Post

    Which is exactly why the Flyers need to tank this season and get a high end skilled player in the draft .This is their chance to get a skilled top end player to build with along with Frost and Farabee,Hart etc... They cant blow this , ...
    On the idea of a "Process" I heard some basketball/Sixers fans discussing what they felt is already the ultimate failure of their recent "Process" and that they should already blow it all up and start a new tanking process to try to have a chance in about 5 or more years. Their logic was based on the PHL-BOS trade at the draft a couple of year ago -- where the Sixers gave up assets to flip 3rd for 1st overall pick but that PHL got a bust with the #1 while BOS added a stud at #3 to go with their already great team -- and now the Sixers will have no chance for many years of ever beating BOS in the playoffs to come out of the East, so they might as well dump everyone for future picks and try to start all over again. I know the NBA is a completely different situation where a few dynamic players grouped on one team are able to establish essentially insurmountable dynasties, but ... Damn! That's some harsh fans perspective.

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  • AIK1891
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    On an aside ... just looking at this morning's standings and what happened to ANA? 0-6-4 in their last 10 and winless in 12?

    Back to Flyers, since they won Monday they jumped up two spots. I'm not super worried about the difference between 28th and 31st since the lottery odds make the top picks such a complete crapshoot, though I guess there's some merit to the argument that 31st overall in the standings is guaranteed to pick no worse than 4th (technically the most-likely spot under last year's odds) while 28th could possibly get only the 7th pick.

    Which other teams clustered near the bottom should definitely be sellers this year? (Poor OTT having already sold their first-round pick)

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  • evee1234
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    I agree Cup4Recchi. If there ever was a time to throw in the towel on the season itís now. Complete the rebuild that Hexy started. Sell Simmonds and Jake. Load up for the draft.

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  • Cup4Recchi8
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    Originally posted by AIK1891 View Post
    And now, new, TSN's post-WJC ranking of top-50 NHL-affiliated prospects.

    https://www.tsn.ca/russian-wingers-t...ects-1.1241872

    No Hart, but I think they considered him an NHL regular already. Only 3 Flyers, none in the top-30: Farabee (#32); Frost (37) and Myers (45).
    Which is exactly why the Flyers need to tank this season and get a high end skilled player in the draft .This is their chance to get a skilled top end player to build with along with Frost and Farabee,Hart etc... They cant blow this ,they aren't making the playoffs this year anyway why screw it up by winning a few games now and draft 14th and get the traditional Flyers two way player in the draft and get nowhere again?

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  • lynchmob450
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    Corey Pronman also released his mid-season prospect list on The Athletic. Remember,
    his preference is for highly skilled players with upside. Only 3 guys made it to his "Elite NHL Prospect" level (Q.Hughes, M.Necas and O.Tippett) and 14 to his "High-End NHL Prospect​​​​​​" level.

    Here is how he ranked the Flyers prospects (all in the "Very Good NHL Prospect" level:


    25. Philippe Myers, D, Philadelphia
    Age: 21 | Drafted: Undrafted

    Previous ranking: 33

    Skating: 55
    Puck Skills: 55
    Physical Game: 70
    Hockey sense: 50

    Myersí second pro season got off to a bit of a rocky start. He turned pucks over a lot but scouts report heís been better lately. There are few defensemen out there with Myersí combination of size, mobility and touch, and that athletic skill set has a ton of value. I donít think his hockey sense will ever be the selling point of his game, but heís smart enough to get enough out of his toolkit and create chances. He could be a reliable every situation guy who plays on a second pairing.


    29. Morgan Frost, C, Philadelphia
    Age: 19 | Drafted: 27th overall in 2017

    Previous ranking: 50

    Skating: 50
    Puck Skills: 65
    Physical Game: 40
    Hockey sense: 60

    Frost has been one of the top players in the CHL the past one-and-a-half seasons. His skill level is fantastic. He makes plays others have no business trying and consistently looks like a top-end playmaker. Iíve had concerns over the years over his pace, but Iím seeing mild improvements in that area. At the world juniors, he showed he could skate at a quicker pace, but heís not great there, and at times, as a smaller guy, he can get pushed off pucks too easily. Due to that, it might take him some time to adjust to the pro game, but once he does heís so skilled that heís going to be a great NHLer.
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    39. Joel Farabee, LW, Philadelphia
    Age: 18 | Drafted: 14th overall in 2018

    Previous ranking: 82

    Skating: 50
    Puck Skills: 55
    Physical Game: 45
    Hockey sense: 65

    I was a mild skeptic of Farabee going into his draft year, but since being picked by the Flyers (14th overall) Iíve steadily been won over by his game (I know, crazy right!). I always knew he was a smart player, but heís so smart. His natural skill level isnít high-end, but heís very creative and sees the game very well. Farabee combines that with a high compete level and fine but not amazing speed. He might never frequent highlight reels, but he will be a guy who will log a lot of minutes in all situations.

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  • Strohs72
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    So I wonder where Hart would have been if he had not already become an NHL regular?

    Iím
    Guessing he would have to be top ten no?

    I see a lot of Jason Robertson play with the Icedogs, and IMHO I think he is rated much too high on that list ... very one dimensional player .... great shot and decent speed with size but thatís about it.

    I havenít seen Frost play a lot mind you ... but if I had to choose between Frost or Robertson, I would probably take Frost over Robertson.

    Frost reminds me a lot of what I saw from Mitch Marner when he was in the O. The puck seems to always find him and heís fast, got great hands and has great passing vision . I canít wait to see him play at the next level ...






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